You and I Differ on What “Humor” Means

So, yes, apparently The Youths are “surfing” to this site called Cracked. Actually, since I’m learning about it now, it’s probably been popular for at least a decade. ANYHOO, I decided to peek in on it and see what the fuss was about.

That the site seems aimed almost exclusively at teenage boys didn’t surprise. Hell, I go to any site expecting that. ‘Cuz, you know, young white guys are the default people and anyone else is some weird other. But that it was so glaringly unfunny was kind of a shock.

I made the grave, grave mistake of reading this, and it’s gotten an already crap morning off to a hideous beginning.

This may be the most spectacularly stupid start to a justification for misogyny I’ve ever seen in my life. AND I READ MRA AND WINGNUT BLATHERINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

To the women who “can’t understand what the big deal is” and think “guys are such perverts” are audibly sighing right now, please save your comments until women stop obsessing about diamonds. Thank you.

OMF diamond-encrusted God. And, also, is Cracked not only written for 14 year old boys but staffed by them as well?, because holy shit. If you learned everything you know about women from a 15 second Zales commercial, you probably shouldn’t be editorializing about the fairer sex.

The hair-twirling commenters saying some variation of “I’m a girl and I love boobs, too!” make me want to cry.

Anyway, long story short, don’t read Cracked. It’s pretty awful and apparently some guy wrote a thing awhile back telling us ladies that misogyny wasn’t so bad because skyscrapers. No, really.

Go look outside. See those cars driving by? Every car being driven by a man was designed and built and bought and sold with you in mind. The only reason why small, fuel-efficient or electric cars don’t dominate the roads is because we want to look cool in our cars, to impress you. Go look at a city skyline. All those skyscrapers? We built those to impress you, too.

 

Well, thanks, guys! But slightly less thanks for forgetting that women have had a hand in designing cars and skyscrapers, too.

I’m gonna go vomit up my breffus now.

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26 thoughts on “You and I Differ on What “Humor” Means

  1. I haven’t seen such a pathetic attempt to drive up traffic with lame soft-pr0n since the last time I clicked on a link to dumbass Donalde Douglas’ blog.

  2. It is like if you ask the dudes in New Guinea why they wear those enormous gourds over their dicks, and they tell you “It is to impress the ladies!” Meanwhile the ladies are rolling their eyes and saying “Yeah, sure, like we could give a fuck”.

    Codpieces also. To impress women and nothing at all to do with the reactions of other guys.

  3. I’m going to defend Cracked. There is lots of stuff there that is genuinely funny and genuinely interesting. I’m even going to defend the David Wong piece. I find myself agreeing with Amanda Marcotte pretty darned often, but I think she completely misses the mark here. I mean she even acknowledges that her compaint about Wong’s column isn’t really about what David Wong wrote. She trashes him for an argument that he never makes. And then she doubles down by making him teh spokeman for teh “All Women Are Frigid Bitches” crowd. WTF? Where did that come from?

    I mean, yeah – there’s this trope, this ugly argument about men being hornier and therefore that justifies their childish behaviour. Thus any argument that starts off with horny men starts carrying a red flag. BUT HE DOESN’T MAKE THAT ARGUMENT. Actually, about the furthest thing from it.

    You know what else? Hey Marcotte, maybe this isn’t about women. Ever think that maybe, just maybe, a guy can talk about what he thinks and feels? These are his beliefs along with his interpretation of how they are linked to why some men behave like misogynists. Or is it better that he shut teh fuck up about stuff like that?

    And also too, all in teh context of a humour site.

  4. FYWP. At teh risk of double posting –

    I’m going to defend Cracked. There is lots of stuff there that is genuinely funny and genuinely interesting. I’m even going to defend the David Wong piece. I find myself agreeing with Amanda Marcotte pretty darned often, but I think she completely misses the mark here. I mean she even acknowledges that her compaint about Wong’s column isn’t really about what David Wong wrote. She trashes him for an argument that he never makes. And then she doubles down by making him teh spokeman for teh “All Women Are Frigid Bitches” crowd. WTF? Where did that come from?

    I mean, yeah – there’s this trope, this ugly argument about men being hornier and therefore that justifies their childish behaviour. Thus any argument that starts off with horny men starts carrying a red flag. BUT HE DOESN’T MAKE THAT ARGUMENT. Actually, about the furthest thing from it.

    You know what else? Hey Marcotte, maybe this isn’t about women. Ever think that maybe, just maybe, a guy can talk about what he thinks and feels? These are his beliefs along with his interpretation of how they are linked to why some men behave like misogynists. Or is it better that he shut teh fuck up about stuff like that?

    And also too, all in teh context of a humour site.

    • Let me try to clarify what he’s saying with teh Me So Horny thing. First, there’s some own-gender-deprecating jokes/observations about freakjobs who clearly have problems. There’s some pontificating and bullshit evolution garbage that is clearly stupid – and also clearly indicated in the column to be irrelevant. Then the actual argument:

      Men sometimes get aroused in very inappropriate situations. Knowing that getting aroused in those circumstances is wrong (which probably doesn’t help with teh whole boner thing) men blame the object of their arousal for being arousing. Something that teh Cracked d00d says is crazy behaviour.

      Really? That is the fount of misogyny? UGh. It’s not about men being hornier than women. In fact, it has nothing to do with women at all. Replace the hot chick at the granny’s funeral with a hot oiled up six-pack sporting guy and this becomes the exact argument used on closeted anti-gay shitbags. Although, that’s not to say that any of this behaviour is right or proper. Maybe Wong could have denigrated it moar – aside from calling it “crazy” and those initial jokes about guys who got their PENISes stuck in pool filters. But that probably wouldn’t have helped since Marcotte’s complaint is that his joking really means that he thinks women have no sexual desires at all.

    • In the cold light of morning I may have figured out how to fill in those little entry fields at the bottom of the comment box.

      Okay, I’m not saying that the specific offending Cracked piece is good. It wasn’t particularly funny. And it is certainly reasonable for women to read it and feel like they are being condescended to. And Wong does admit to supporting the whole evolutionary basis for men so horny thing. And the very last bit about the skyscrapers has some cringe inducing shit in it (although, it’s incidental, and #5 actually says something different*).

      And also, I’m in the position of privilege – of being on the giving end of the whole mansplanation phenomenon.

      But – I still think the reaction against Wong is overblown. If you read the Pandagon thread, there’s commentary from folks who have read other Cracked stuff before. That the site usually is pretty progressive (b00b fetishism notwithstanding) and even this piece is good right up to the point where Marcotte starts putting words in his mouth.

      Finally, while the last long comments at the end of the Pandagon thread certainly overstate the matter, there is still this question of how the hell are guys suppose to talk about this. If a guy wants to participate in the discussion about how women are treated like shit – he’s not allowed even to venture his own thoughts about his own feelings? Certainly much less of a problem than the fact that women actually get treated like shit. No question about that at all. But some of us PENIS-havers kinda want to help on that front**.

      * On the third hand, what it does say (Men feel powerless and frustrated because despite all their efforts at wev, they still horny) is still pretty fucking ridiculous. The Wong piece would be a lot easier to defend if he stopped at four reasons.

      ** Yeah, step one is obviously to stop treating women like shit. So in that context, “b00b fetishism notwithstanding” is an out of place argument. But it’s a nuanced view I’m trying to get at.

      • Honesty time: I didn’t read the article, so everything I say should be taken with a grain of salt.

        Honestly, the “who’s hornier” debate bores me. Yes, female desire and horniness is constantly minimized and dismissed and that’s really troubling…but it’s the fucking skyscrapers thing that made me want to find Mr. Wong and rip his face off.

        Do you know why I find that part so offensive? Because it makes women passive bystanders in life. Like…we’re just sitting around with our thumbs up our asses while men do shit like BUILD SKYSCRAPERS and DESIGN CARS. This is a common assumption that even passably non-sexist men make. That men are the doers and women are the observers. I’m not OBSERVING life; I participate in it. I sat the computer for thousands of hours teaching myself to manipulate images and paint digitally and in the space of a few years became a published artist, and blah blah blah. I have lots of stuff to brag about. I don’t watch men make art. I FUCKING MAKE ART.

        And I didn’t do any of thIS shit to impress a man. I DOUBT that men like accomplishing things just to impress women. Just the claim on its face is bullshit, aside from it being incredibly offensive.

        And I don’t mind a little boob talk; it’s normal, it’s human. I’ve participated in it. But the constant reducing of women to their body parts–that better by god adhere to current beauty standards–is wearying.

        That being said, someone corrected me and told me that section was user-generated. So I’m definitely willing to give the Cracked writers another chance.

  5. If you want to impress me boys, just wash the fucking dishes without being asked to do it and don’t act like you did me a big favor afterward.

  6. If you want to impress me boys, just wash the fucking dishes without being asked to do it and don’t act like you did me a big favor afterward.

    I’d really rather just drive a Ferrari past some nice skyscrapers.

  7. If you want to impress me boys, just wash the fucking dishes without being asked to do it and don’t act like you did me a big favor afterward.

    The “Porn for Women” books are pretty funny.

    • Ugh. The humorless feminist in me thinks those books are just horrible horrible horrible. Actually, no. Even the humorful feminist in me finds those books fucking awful. Ha ha ha! Women don’t want hot men or hot sex, they just want someone to do chores. Haw haw haw! WRONG!

      • Yeah, I guess I can see that. I just saw them much like Wiley’s comment. It flips the whole objectification paradigm, making it not what you look like, but what you do that matters.

      • Unfortunately, it’s about men…which is kinda business as usual. In other words, this does nothing to address the truth/bullshit(?) that women are valued primarily for their sex appeal and men are valued for what they can provide.

        BTW, if I sound snippy, it’s not cuz of something you said, it’s cuz this stuff annoys me.

        That being said, being thoughtful IS hot.

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